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Tues_manIc


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Date: 1:21 PM, 04/17/12
A question about Face/Off
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Hey guys, we know John Woo hailed from China, so I had this queston when i watched Face/Off.

I thought John drew inspiration from Chinese Opera to create this film, what do you think?

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Lady Trueheart


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Yes, I can see that, Tues, in the exaggerated and dramatic movements and gestures, for sure! Do you think it was Woo who suggested it to Nic or Nic adapting it himself for his amazing performance? Thanks for posting the video, it is quite something to see!



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Tues_manIc


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Wow you have an eye for the arts, Lady T!chickendance Thanks for responding and i am overjoyed that you like that video.hug I think it was amazing that Nic assimilated it into his acting, I'm happy to see him reinterpret it I'm sorry, i was not sure at all where to post my question. That video is a glimpse of an ole chinese art from Sichuan Opera called Face-changing(Bian lian) which is also one of the chinese titles for Face/Off, but i need some cogent reasons like text or audio interview to make sure whether Woo drew inspiration from Face-changing for Face/Off. I might have to admit I am deeply touched by the opening of Windtalkers, which for my eye, is a reminiscence of northwest china. I'm not a darned chauvinst in the least, though. SO what's your opinions on the correlation between Face/Off and the Face-changing performance?

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evalovescage


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I don't know about the question Tues, but that vid is really cool, very mind blowing!



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Tues_manIc


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Date: 10:17 PM, 04/19/12
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First of all, dunno how did i come up with this question, I am sorry, lets talk about Nicolas Cage and his films. I just wanted to talk about films, fed up with those chauvinist, nevertheless, I will find a appropriate way to ask it. Thank you for responding Eva. I hope everyone here have a NICe day.

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Voodoo child


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Date: 1:57 AM, 04/20/12
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Oh wow this is so fascinating Tues,I never heard of Chinese opera before and that it might be related to Face/Off. thank you for posting!



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Lady Roxanne


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That is really a great, interesting and NICxellent question, Tues! Indeed, it could be possible, that John Woo and also Nic could drove their inspirations for the movie from the chinese opera! And, the vid is really fascinating! Thanks for asking the question and posting this interesting vid! You have all the right, to ask this question here! That is, what this section is created for! :)

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Lady Trueheart


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It is not chauvinist to share aspects of your cultural history with others, Tues.

I was so busy looking at the movements of the dancer that I was not even thinking of the connection with the masks changes and the movie title, face off, duh!~So it would be interesting to read an interview with Woo to see if he addressed how he approached this movie.

I have not seen Windtalkers for some time Tues, and I can't even remember the opening scenes much. But it was in the southwest of the USA,  wasn't it?



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Tues_manIc


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You both are welcome Voodoo Child and Roxy, and thanks to Youtube. Though I have little acquaintance with Chinese opera, to my knowledge it could date back to the primitive eras, Voodoo child, I am glad that your first glimpse of chinese opera was not very badchortle
Oh thanks for your lovely comment Roxy. Now I'm thinking of Akira Kurosawa and Red Cliff, for which I still believe there is some correlation between Face/Off and Face-changing lol. I am gonna cast about for an interview for your kindness Lady Tchickendance I just know the director of Infernal Affairs did draw his inspiration from Face/Off, and Woo said in an interview about how did he cope with the difficulties when filming Face/Off and Windtalkers. You are definitely right, Lady T. The opening and closing scenes of Windtalker took place in American Southwest, but the desert, the music and nature worship were reminiscent of NW China's, this is my personal opinion, of causedirector
Thanks for dropping by everyone!!

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Lula Argante


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Dear Tues, thank you for an incredibly inspiring line of enquiry, wish we could ask Jon Woo!

This is my first experience of Chinese opera, it is breathtaking. I can certainly see the parallel, with Nic's operatic performance in Face/Off, ( and John Travolta's too!) They were both incredibly theatrical in moments of the film, I have read  both actors made a conscious decision to portray 'larger than life' characters.. and Jon Woo allowed them to go there. Nic has also often described some of his perfomances as 'operatic'.

Thank you for puttign forth the  connection, a most stimulating thought for today! starry



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Tues_manIc


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Thank you Lula, your professional answer to my question was greatly appreciated!! I didnt know Nic himself ever described his perfomances as operatic ones but I do agree, he delivers operatNIC, thought-provoking and out-of-the-box performances in acting which adds extra dimension to .... My bad, I never understand what does nouveau shamaNIC style mean correctly.

TBH I'm lucky enough to have had alot of Chinese opera experience as child, it means something to me, so glad you guys liked it.

Thank yous to you all for all the attention you have brought to this topic.

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Gina


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I agree Tues_ I never really truly understood the Noveau Shamanic style but I also agree, the style is definitely "operatic" as Lula pointed out.

You can definitely see operatic voyage in Face/off.



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